Cannot See 920 Screen Due to Sunlight

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    rufbeefdadsd

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    Just purchased Go 920 and beyond all the hype and 1001 things its supposed to do its basically useless visually during daylight hours because of glare. I have it set to the brightest display and I tried the so-called "Clear View" color overlay-nothing helps. I am horrified. What's the good of all the features this unit has if YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING??? I noticed that even when its overcast the screen is still pretty faded. It works great when you're travelling beneath an overpass though!

    Is there any solution to this? Am I the only person in the world experiencing this? I used to have a Lowrance 1-way 500 whose screen was twice as large as Tomtom's and the display was crystal clear in the brightest sunshine. Had to shelve it though because the touchscreen became hit and miss.

    Please help.
     
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    I had the XL-S at the time, bought the 920 for few major reasons and these were 2 of them. One, "up to 5 hours" battery life and two, anti-glare/clear view or whatever screen.
    Honestly, one, battery life (of the 920) lasts about 2 or 2 1/2 hours :( that's bad. And two, under bright sunshine, there is NO difference whatsoever between the non-antiglare XL-S screen and well-advertised anti-glare GO920 screen. :(:(:(
    I was not VERY happy but I let it go ......... since noone ever complaining, I tend to blame myself for .......... my eye-sight problem :D
     
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    Have you tried a different color scheme? Sometimes that helps. Good luck!
     
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    unfortunately, the anti glare isn't the greatest.
    It also depends on where you place the unit.

    When I had my unit on the mid-windshield, I did experience. I moved it to the top/bottom left corner and it improved.
    Now I use a proclip which is next to my stereo unit. :D
     
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    GAW

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    It is amazing the TomTom has not improved their screens from earlier versions. My 910 is a tad brighter then the newer units.

    You might try a high contrast color scheme like "france-palette-de-couleur" (which is a free download), plus try to find a mounting location that avaids direct sun.

    Mine is on the dash in a bright spot, but a sunshade like "Glare-Stomper" along with the above color scheme makes it usable.

    I do not think I will buy another TomTom unless they get with it on the screen brightness. They do get a few bright sunny days over there at their headquarters (in between a lot of cloudy/rainy days), so it should not be an unknown situation to them.
     
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    I didn't like the glare on my TT either. I thought about getting one of these shades:

    [​IMG]


    I decided instead to move my TT to the upper left corner of my windshield so the roof of the car will provide shade for the screen. The cable to the TT (from the cigarette lighter) just reaches as I route it around the rear view mirror and above the visor to the unit.

    Also... no one can see the suction cup if I happen to leave it stuck on the wind shield. That area of the windshield is tinted. :D
     
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    Pajoe

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    The one thing I dislike about the Go920 is the lack of screen brightness, there are times when it is totally worthless for me. However, I did find the following scheme works best, and I continue to try every bright screen I can find.

    bike.clr

    255,255,255 // background
    255,255,255 // built-up area (city)
    109,150,199 // water solid
    051,153,102 // park
    204,255,204 // woodland
    245,248,202 // beach/dune/sand
    255,255,255 // industrial zone
    225,225,225 // harbor/marina
    209,216,084 // moor/heath
    209,216,084 // marsh
    150,204,214 // pedestrian zone
    192,192,192 // airport
    255,255,255 // runway
    000,000,000 // route background ('below' the road)
    000,000,255 // route foreground (on top of the road)
    255,000,000 // blocked road (dotted on top of any road)
    255,255,000 // traffic jam (dotted on top of any road)
    247,246,050 // highlighted / selected (line on top of any road)
    255,255,153 // unreachable / not allowed to drive (dotted on top of any road)
    255,000,000 // motorway solid
    102,000,000 // motorway edge
    255,000,000 // motorway inside
    000,000,000 // motorway text
    153,000,000 // major/international road solid
    153,000,000 // major/international road edge
    255,000,000 // international road inside
    255,000,000 // major road inside
    000,000,000 // major road text
    255,000,000 // secondary road small
    255,000,000 // secondary road solid
    051,102,255 // secondary road edge
    051,102,255 // secondary road inside
    000,000,000 // secondary road text
    255,000,000 // connecting road small
    255,000,000 // connecting road solid
    102,000,000 // connecting road edge
    000,000,255 // connecting road inside
    000,000,000 // connecting road text
    255,000,000 // (major)local road small
    051,102,255 // major local road solid
    051,102,255 // local road solid
    000,255,255 // local/destination road edge
    051,102,255 // local/destination road inside
    000,000,000 // local road text
    051,102,255 // destination road solid
    000,000,000 // destination road text
    028,049,147 // ferry background
    239,238,238 // ferry dots
    000,000,000 // ferry text
    022,010,103 // railroad dashed A
    255,102,000 // railroad dashed B
    028,049,147 // water edge outlines
    000,000,000 // borders (dot-dash)
    255,255,000 // arrows (road direction)
    000,000,000 // arrows border (road direction)
    255,255,000 // Route indication arrow color, normal
    255,255,000 // Route indication arrow color, highlighted
    000,000,000 // Tollroad edge color
    255,000,255 // Tollroad inside color
    000,000,092 // NavView: status/safeview panel background (default:dark blue)
    000,000,128 // NavView: status/safeview panel borders (default:blue)
    255,255,255 // NavView: status/safeview panel text (default:white)
    206,207,255 // NavView: status/safeview panel dim text (default:lightblue)
    000,000,092 // NavView: next highway background
    255,255,255 // NavView: next highway border
    255,255,255 // NavView: next highway text / iRouteDirectionArrowColor
    000,128,000 // NavView: next highway EXIT background
    255,255,255 // NavView: next highway EXIT border
    255,255,255 // NavView: next highway EXIT text
    095,100,215 // NavView: routeplanning progressbar color
    000,153,000 // Distant route color
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    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeSuburbs
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeCompanyGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeFreeport
    208,238,119 // EFaceTypeAmusementParkGround
    208,238,119 // EFaceTypeCampingSiteGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeCastleGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeChurchGround
    208,238,119 // EFaceTypeGolfCourseGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeGovernmentBuildingGround
    208,238,119 // EFaceTypeHolidayAreaGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeHospitalGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeHotelMotelGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeLibraryGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeMuseumGround
    182,214,086 // EFaceTypeNatureReserveGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeParkingAreaGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypePetrolStationGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypePlaceOfInterestBuilding
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeMonumentGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeRailwayStationGround
    208,238,119 // EFaceTypeRecreationalAreaGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeRestaurantGround
    208,238,119 // EFaceTypeRestAreaGround
    168,168,168 // EFaceTypeRocksGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeSportsHallGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeStadiumGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeUniversityCollegeGround
    208,238,119 // EFaceTypeWalkingTerrainGround
    208,238,119 // EFaceTypeZooGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeInstitution
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeOtherLanduse
    208,238,119 // EFaceTypeCemeteryGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeMilitaryTerritory
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeShoppingCenterGround
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeAgriculture // Corine face types
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeVineyards
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeFruitTrees
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeOliveGroves
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypePastures
    182,214,086 // EFaceTypeBroadleavedForest
    182,214,086 // EFaceTypeConiferousForest
    182,214,086 // EFaceTypeMixedForest
    182,214,086 // EFaceTypeScrub
    168,168,168 // EFaceTypeRocks
    200,200,200 // EFaceTypeGlaciersSnow
    168,168,200 // EFaceTypeIntertidalFlats
    255,255,255 // EFaceTypeTownblockCityBlock // City map face types
    255,255,153 // EFaceTypeTownblockSandArea
    209,216,084 // EFaceTypeTownblockMarsh
    182,214,086 // EFaceTypeTownblockForest
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeTownblockGrass
    208,238,119 // EFaceTypeTownblockPlantedArea
    109,150,199 // EFaceTypeTownblockWaterSystem
    208,238,119 // EFaceTypeTownblockBankArea
    109,150,199 // EFaceTypeTownblockSwimmingPool
    255,153,153 // EFaceTypeTownblockHighWay
    255,153,153 // EFaceTypeTownblockNationalRoute
    255,153,153 // EFaceTypeTownblockPrincipalRoad
    255,153,153 // EFaceTypeTownblockOtherRoad
    255,255,255 // EFaceTypeTownblockWalkWay
    255,153,153 // EFaceTypeTownblockGardenPath
    255,153,153 // EFaceTypeTownblockTunnel
    255,153,153 // EFaceTypeTownblockMediumStrip
    255,255,255 // EFaceTypeTownblockHospital
    255,255,255 // EFaceTypeTownblockSchool
    255,255,255 // EFaceTypeTownblockFactory
    100,100,150 // EFaceTypeTownblockDam
    255,153,153 // EFaceTypeTownblockRailwayGround
    255,153,153 // EFaceTypeTownblockPavedArea
    255,255,255 // EFaceTypeTownblockIncompleteArea
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeRailRoadStation
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeHospital
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeSchool
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeFactory
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypePlaceOfWorship
    204,204,204 // EFaceTypeCulturalFacility


    I don't know how to share it other than post it as it is here

    on edit: I also use 3D and a big yellow pointer for the icon, seems to show up better than in 2D
     
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    gerryc

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    I have the same problem with glare. if located on top of the dash, a hat will serve as a visor for the tomtom. Takes some practice but after a while, You'll learn to adjust the shade quickly.
     
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    The whole sunlight/glare thing is the bane of most GPS units, not just the Tom Toms. But a couple of things you can try:

    1) What my friend does with his Garmin unit: procure a bit of window-tint film and cut a square to the screen dimensions. Secure with scotch-tape or a few Velcro squares. From what I can see, cuts down decently (but does not entirely eliminate) much of the glare

    2) What I do: Cut myself a square of heavy black cardstock, approximately 6" x 6". I keep this in the car, and secure to the top of the TT with a velcro tab so that it overhangs the front of the unit, like a visor. This works pretty nicely for me, as I keep my unit mounted from the dash below eye level. I guess you could also experiment with mounting some panels on either side of the unit as well, and make an enclosed viewing "box" to block out as much light as possible.
     
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    Indeed i have the same problem even with day settings on 100% its a problem
     
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    try a bean bag mount so u can move unit to shade

    I had a similar problem so I took the bean bag mount from my old Garmin and screwed the Docking unit that came with my GO920 to it. One can make a bean bak by putting a piece of wood in a bag to screw to, then fill it with pebbles, marbles, nuts & bolts, anything heavy.

    Now I can move it anywhere and it stays put even on hard turns (I did put some velcro under it and in my favorite spots.

    I also changed colors for best contrast.

    Hope this helps. Bert a full time RVer in Yuma, AZ, USA who NEVER leaves home without my GO920 and Blackberry 8310.
     
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    Birdman.......thanks for the post. I decided to go for it, knowing it would be more for us in Canada considering our dollar has gone south the last couple of months.

    However, when it came time to check out, the delivery charge would add $27 US to the cost, bringing the total in Canadian $$$ to $50!

    Too much, I'm afraid :(

    Guess I'll stick with the baseball cap protector for now.....:rolleyes:
     
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    Whoa! Free shipping to US and almost $30 shipping to Canada...that's crazy!
     
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    Will pm you, Birdman
     
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    Not the first time I witness such and my main deterrent in purchasing online in the USA. I did pay similar when wanting the cable to my IBM keyboard as they seemed inexistant here. Often the way around this is to get the item shipped USPS and also pay the 10$ standard fee for customs/duties on the parcel. Often there is no additional fee if the item was manufactured in NA but, when the item is worth 10$, you end up paying more in additional fees than what the item is worth...

    My way around, when the item is small and can wait, has been to have it delivered to my niece or her husband and wait for them to come to Montreal.
     
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    back to the shade itself....

    I am using the much larger soft sunshade here in (sunny) California, and with the slightly duller x20-x30 screens - it still leaves a lot to be desired. The smaller one pictured would be even less helpful here.

    When the x20 units boot up, there is initially a much brighter mode for the boot-up screen. Wish there was a way to get TomTom to incorporate a mode in a new application update to have that extra brightness stay on when daytime set to 100% and the unit is powered (the new low capacity batteries would not last very long with it on...).

    That would go a long way to help solve the problem - and it looks like the hardware capability is there already.
     
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    I wonder if the 3.5" screen models have a brighter screen. My Magellan 3.5" screen is MUCHHHHHHHHHHH brighter and more colorful and 100% perfectly visble during the day time compared to my ONE XL I just sold. I typically notice that the larger a screen gets, the more faint the brightness unless they implement a strong backlight.

    For example, my ViewSonic VX2035WM is a 20" Widescreen model. I also have a VX2235WM which is the same exact model but instead is a 22" widescreen. The 22" is a bit more faint and washed out.

    Do I make any sense or am I just crazy?

    Not sure if you see the difference but here is an example. Of course this could be due to brand as well...

    [​IMG]

    It's almost as if no amount of sunlight can overpower the brightness of my Magellan screen. It's so damn clear during a very very sunny day.
     
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    Don't know about yhe 3.5", but the older TomTom 4" were slightly brigher.

    The shame is that on boot-up of the x20-x30 models, the screen initially has a very bright appearance, but it dulls down after that. Still wondering if the brighter mode could be incorporated into a application update to work when the unit is powered.
     
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