Safety Camera service

On pps 4 and 11 of that document it states "the POI data that is distributed as part of TomTom products is (a) not in OV2 format" which suggests that there's a proprietary file format (with the same extension!) for files distributed with the devices or downloaded via Home2

The poi data sent as part of any map is stored in a file called poi.dat. Any custom ov2 files created by the user (or downloaded from some site) are indeed called xx.ov2.

That's what I think TT is referring to in the quote about its data not being in ov2 format.
 
Ver. 4286 Safety Camera Update Now Displays Locations as POI's

I haven't posted to this thread for a while, as no new information had come to light.

But after upgrading recently to navcore 9.022, tonight I downloaded Safety Camera ver.4286 via Home2 and camera locations can now displayed as POI's with an icon and a value of "0" on roll-over. They appear in the POI list titled "Safety Camera Other US TomTom" and have a distinctive red border to their icon.

Some observations:

They cannot be modified with the map correction feature. When attempted, an error is displayed, "Selected item is not a map-provider POI" - which is the same message displayed when trying to correct fuel stations (vs. gas station POI's). And unfortunately, there is still no way of routing around camera locations, the way one can with toll roads, HOV lanes, ferries, etc. That would be a *very* useful feature (anyone from TomTom listening here?)

Lots of camera locations are displayed, in most of the 48 states, Hawaii and even Canada, but none that I could see in Mexico, Alaska or PR/VI. I can personally vouch for having seen actual cameras at the locations shown in Newark Ohio, on a cross-country trip last summer. I dined in a restaurant there and my waitress was very emphatic in warning me about them, so I was on the lookout. The locals were upset - understandably - at getting mailed $100 speeding tickets generated automatically by these cameras, for offenses as slight as going 1-2 mph above the posted limits.

The Home2 update downloaded three new files to the device's USA_Canada_and_Mexico_P directory:
Safety_Cam_US_Other_TomTomOv2.ver,
Safety_Cam_US_Other_TomTom.ov2 and
Safety_Cam_US_Other_TomTom.bmp

Note the file name change! Also, the existing safety camera files in that directory (from the preceding ver. 4119) were *not* overwritten by the download, so that directory still contains them:
Safety_Cam_US_Canada_TomTomOv2.ver
Safety_Cam_US_Canada_TomTom.ov2

And importantly, these files are still being used: if removed, Safety Camera features (with alerts, etc.) are no longer available in the TomTom Services menu, and no alerts are sounded when approaching a camera (although the camera icon remains displayed on the map).

The new Safety_Cam_US_Other_TomTom.ov2 file is substantially larger than previous ones:
ver. 4386 - 75,558 bytes - 01/01/10
ver. 4119 - 48,449 bytes - 12/06/09
ver. 3943 - 46,887 bytes - 11/14/09
ver. 3852 - 47,195 bytes - 11/01/09
ver. 3764 - 45,952 bytes - 10/19/09
ver. 3696 - 42,751 bytes - 10/06/09
ver. 3674 - 42,300 bytes - 12/10/2102 (??)
ver. 3586 - 40,518 bytes - 12/08/2102 (??)
ver. 3564 - 40,320 bytes - 11/16/2102 (??)
ver. 3542 - 36,239 bytes - 09/12/09
ver. 1077 - 8,349 bytes - 07/10/08

Because of the additional data in ver. 4386 vs. ver. 4119, and the observation above that the safety camera alert system relies on the ver. 4119 files being in place, one wonders if *all* the camera locations now displayed on the map will trigger alerts.

Brute-force testing seems the only way to answer this, since Tyre v.5.5 will still not open any of these .ov2 safety camera files, and returns an error "This is not a valid POI file or the file is encrypted!" Has anyone found a way to display these files in any third party POI applications, to compare the data they contain?

One last observation. I hadn't noticed the corrupted file dates on ver. 3564, 3586 and 3674 before now. Has anyone else backed up these files, and experienced the same issue with file dates?

Curiouser and curiouser!
 
TomTom are not a good vendor/partner

I've been trying to figure out why my Safety Cameras service "broke" a few weeks ago and now I see why. It looks to me as if TomTom have purposely broken this service in the US by changing the file name that is downloaded. That is so bogus! I bought this stupid thing and paid for the service so that I could have the Safety Cameras database and now they just go break it without even a notification that it's going away???

GRR!!

When I bought my GO 740 LIVE back in September, Safety Cameras was an official feature. Now when I look on their site it's not even mentioned in their online marketing material.
 
Yes, they told me the same thing that US isn't supported and acted as if I was insane that it ever worked. Someone at TomTom has to have changed the filename, too, to break the support. They just aren't acknowledging that it used to work. Sigh.
 
I understand your frustration. My TT 720 originally gave spoken alerts for speed cameras. This disappeared with the latest application, TT said that it was never possible on the 720.
My friends, who had the same thing happen, can not believe how badly TT service treated them, basically saying they were all lying. Why can they not just say that they have changed the format and be honest about it.
 
I did find one camera in the TomTom safety cameras. I believe that it was in California.
 
Safety Camara

I am in Toronto Canada, I have 730 Go
I had this services working for me, I had a problem with my GPS they replaced it.
I got the replacement, now Safety Camara is not working! or I cann't find the option to turn it on
It use to be in POI
I called they said I have to pay for it!
Then I look at in TomTom Home software it says it is Free
So I called back
This time support people told me My device got replaced with American Device so that is why this feature is not working!
He is going to Xfer to my Supervisor!
 
spoke to Cory (Floor Supervisor) gave me the Ticket 100129-004558
Said this is not fully supported feature !
 
Is your map say USA_Canada or North_America? (should be the latter)

There is no 730 model for Canada and another one for the States.

If your map is USA_Canada, then it should be replaced by TT for the North America map.
 
Is your map say USA_Canada or North_America? (should be the latter)

There is no 730 model for Canada and another one for the States.

If your map is USA_Canada, then it should be replaced by TT for the North America map.
I am pretty Sure that was third class BS given to me by some incompleteness Tech person :mad:
Now My Map says North_America_2GB
Here is a funny thing, If I reload the Original backup (cherry one) it shows Safety Camara. ( I just tried that)
I am not what is killing that feature new Application or Maps ?
 
Are the safety cameras not just an ov2 file? If so, copy the .ov2 file from your backed up map to the map on the unit.
 
Don't know
I just update the Application :(
option is still there
Now I am updating the MAP to see if it is still there
 
I have the cause of that malfuncation
It is a Map Version of 840.2565
As soon I have loaded I lost the option for that from POI options
 
Use Explorer to look at the contents of your map folder. Do you see a file called something like: safety_camera.ov2 ??

If not, on your backed up (earlier) map, do you see such a file? If so, use Explorer to copy that file (and associated .bmp file) from the backed up map to the new map on the unit.
 
The free safety camera are working fine on North America 2GB map 840. Do the following:

1) close Tomtom HOME
2) delete the folder: My Documents\TomTom\HOME\Download\complete\safetycamera
3) reopen HOME
4) go to "add traffic, voices, safety cameras, etc" -> "safety cameras", and download the free cameras from there
 
Doesn't work for me, mvl.

Don't even have a safety camera folder to delete and still am not offered the safety camera file in Home for North America.
 
Very strange. Tomtom offers it for both my 720 and 930.

Can you see paid safety cameras available in HOME for all the other countries if you change "Recommended Items" to "all" in the dropdown?
 
Hmmm... Well, MIR96TA and you are both Canadians...

What happens if you set up a brand new USA email account, and try connecting your devices. Do you get it then?
 

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