Tomtom / teleatlas map issues - unexpected findings

[mvl]

My buddy just got a one 130 and did LMG to map 825, so I took a look to see if any of my map 815 errors were fixed. (I wrote them down preparing for the subscription service).

Disappointingly, only 2 of my 20 corrections made it in. But here's the weird thing: one of those changes (a road deletion) didn't make it yet onto teleatlas.com. So tomtom and teleatlas must still be running separate map databases (prior to the merger, tomtom said it does independent validation of vendor map changes).

Also, I've noticed that teleatlas.com (and google maps) has a few new introduced map errors in the Feb 09 update, that are within 0.1 miles of a similar correction I reported. Eg (I reported a blocked/dead end road, and an incorrect dead end appeared 0.1 miles away). Maybe tomtom got the coordinates wrong on a correction file. So far none of these errors made it onto map 825.

Anyone else notice something similar?

 

[Ricochet]

I've sent over 100 duplicate corrections, both with MapShare & directly to TeleAtlas through MapInsite.

So far, only one housing area has been corrected (it had horribly incorrect street topology) on the most recent MapInsite. However, two more incorrect housing areas in my town, both within a mile of that one, haven't been changed.

NONE of my other road corrections, re-namings, one-ways, blockages, or new streets have appeared on their website, to date. I have Ref Codes for the most recent ones & they aren't currently being addressed.

Recent posts here indicate that the current MapInsite update dose Not necessarily reflect TomTom's latest map. So, not much to entice me to purchase it, but I still remain hopeful.

 

[doctormstein1]

mapshare with teleatlas

I was told the the 2009 maps from teleatlas that have many more mapshare corrections won't be out until the end of may and that this map has somc changes for late 2008 I don't know if this is really the case but by your messages it seems to be the case

 

[cputrdoc]

Summary of map correction announcements

I was told the the 2009 maps from teleatlas that have many more mapshare corrections won't be out until the end of may and that this map has somc changes for late 2008 I don't know if this is really the case but by your messages it seems to be the case

That's correct. I've been listening closely to this issue as it has developed over the past year. Here's the summary:

1. TeleAtlas had few enough corrections to administer before the merger that they could do verification manually. After the merger and introduction of the MapShare feature on TomTom devices they have roughly 20x corrections coming in, and with their partnership with Google over the last year to incorporate POI corrections it's even more than that.
2. TeleAtlas is working on an automated way to preserve map correctness while still accepting reports, but that automation is not expected to be ready for deployment on a large scale until at least 2010. Therefore they're still doing it manually, and are focused primarily on the most-reported issues.
   • Here on the forums there's a way around this -- you can post to https://www.tomtomforums.com/genera...st-locations-see-if-mapshare-working-you.html and several of us will report the issue, essentially flagging it as a must-fix correction. HOWEVER, NOTE 2.2 BELOW!
   • In the be-careful-what-you-wish-for category, it does seem like some of that automation is already online. When I've requested (via the above thread) that rail stations be added, the next map rev included multiple POIs at the same spot, presumably submitted by everyone here on TTF. No person in their right mind doing this manually would allow multiple POIs with the same name, category, phone number, etc. within a few feet of each other so that has to be a bug in the automation process. I've since deleted all but one POI for each of the rail stations so I hope no one deletes my remaining entry.
   • The original TomTom business unit seems eager to let users choose the level of verification for MapShare changes (the feature is there even if it's not active), even though the TeleAtlas map division insists on preserving quality above all else. Unfortunately, the customer is caught in the middle. (no, I don't work for TomTom but that's based on observations as a customer)
3. For new map releases, TeleAtlas is likely to focus is on road placement. Everything else can be fixed via MapShare.
4. At least in the past, MapShare updates were map version specific. If you're seeing regressions, then those MapShare updates from the previous version are not carrying over like they did for 8.10 -> 8.15 (which I suspect was a minor revision anyway and they likely shared the same MapShare database).