GO 1000 on FCC website

[mvl]

I"m trying to decipher it now. But the GO 1000 and many more models have hit the USA FCC website.

 

[mvl]

It looks like a range of models are being released, although it's a little hard to follow all the information:

GO 1000 2G
GO LIVE 1000 2G
GO 1000 4G
GO LIVE 1000 4G
GO 7100 8G
GO LIVE 9100 8G

From the above, it appears that LIVE and non-LIVE models are being released. And ranges of memory sizes are being offered. There's also mention of a 7100 and 9100 that haven't been mentioned in the press before.

The instruction manual is only for non-LIVE models with an RDS-TMC antenna. But unlike what the Europeans have said, the American manual says the model will have an SD expansion slot.

The test report only approves bluetooth functionality, no approval for a LIVE internal modem. I'm wondering if Tomtom doesn't want to disclose it's LIVE modem yet (I had always speculated that Tomtom may go Verizon LTE to launch USA HD traffic via Voafone's tech, if that's the case the device would have to be 700mhz and maybe they don't want to disclose that yet).

The good thing is that the test report says the device supports both bluetooth cellphone and a headphone jack, even if it doesn't discuss LIVE.

 

[jensjakob]

Hi,

Sounds great.

How do you find that information on the FCC website?

Best regards

Jens jakob

 

[canderson]

Hi,

Sounds great.

How do you find that information on the FCC website?

Best regards

Jens jakob

All devices submitted appear on their site. There's something to be said for self-certification ... avoids publication of a lot of information, often including block diagrams, schematics, etc.

You can search here: OET --- Equipment Authorization

by the FCC ID you'll find on many labels:
OET -- FCC ID Search (use Grantee Code "S4L")

or by other means in other parts of the site.

FWIW, you'll find the 1st 3 characters "S4L" on your unit. Of some interest, that brings up (among many others) the following illustrations of some planned TT labels: [can't link direct afterall. Use the OET -- FCC ID Search, above, and link on through to the September 2010 entry.]

If you want to read through some of the technicaleze on the radiated, conducted and Bluetooth testing of some of the new products, find here (guess they decided against an already type approved module - probably a board layout issue where they wanted to position the chip antenna as they saw fit):
[can't link direct afterall. Use the OET -- FCC ID Search, above, and link on through to the September 2010 entry.

Rats .. the good stuff in the application won't be made public until Sept 3, 2010 + 180 days. [can't link direct afterall. Use the OET -- FCC ID Search, above, and link on through to the September 2010 entry.

Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't.

 

[dhn]

Canderson, your last 3 links result in a 'forbidden page' error with the suggested (in IE7) that the site probably requires a log-in.

 

[jensjakob]

@Canderson: GREAT - appreciate it!!!
@Dhn: You got to go to the first link and search on TomTOM after 08/01/2010 and before 01/01/2025

 

[mikealder]

As a pure guess so I might be wrong but here goes anyway:

GO 1000 2G

A device with no SIM card or GPRS modem limited to 2GB of memory to cover regional devices in Europe devoid of Live services.

GO LIVE 1000 2G

A device with a SIM card and GPRS modem limited to 2GB of memory to cover regional devices in Europe that do have Live service coverage such as UK&ROI

GO 1000 4G

Strange one this, why supply 4GB of memory with a non Live connected device i.e. no sim or GPRS modem? Perhaps Central_and_Eastern_Europe where the map size is too large to fit 2GB and most of the mapping supplied with the device is devoid of Live coverage? Or possibly North American for supply in to Canada where you don't yet have Live services due to network restrictions?

GO LIVE 1000 4G

Western_and_Central_Europe OR North America where Live services are available.

GO 7100 8G

World traveller edition with NA and EU mapping but devoid of Live services. Possibly the larger screen size due to the device number sift away from 1000.

GO LIVE 9100 8G

World traveller edition equipped with full Live services, again maybe a larger screen due to the different part number, who knows this one might even have the EPT gyros fitted............

As I said at the start of this post its pure guess work on my part but I think the 2G, 4G and 8G denote the memory size and Live or not denoted whether the modem is fitted along with its Sim card.

Bearing in mind the lack of a memory card expansion slot on these units I wouldn't be too surprised to see 8GB of internal memory fitted to the high end units in order to market a device that can work on both sides of the "Pond" - Mike

 

[gatorguy]

IMO, I think you may generally be spot on Mke. The 9100 will almost certainly include dual-continent maps, but the 7100 might be continent specific. Otherwise quite similar I expect, tho 8G might be overkill on the 7100 in that case. Not sure, so you may be right. Expect both will have 5" display tho. Both TomTom and Garmin moving to that screen size in their hi-end new releases from what I've heard. Like you, just guessing tho. The Go1000's are already set aren't they? The 4G offering all of Europe or NA as the case may be, the 2G for GB/Ireland?

 

[canderson]

Canderson, your last 3 links result in a 'forbidden page' error with the suggested (in IE7) that the site probably requires a log-in.

Well nuts. Just poke S4L into the 2nd link where it says "Grantee Code" and you'll get the TomTom files. The one from September 16, 2010 is the one of interest. You can jump to the links to the documents from there.

 

[gatorguy]

Thanks Canderson. Even the user manuals. Very well done.

 

[mikealder]

The instruction manual is only for non-LIVE models with an RDS-TMC antenna. But unlike what the Europeans have said, the American manual says the model will have an SD expansion slot.

There are a whole raft of errors in that manual though,

Page 2 is clearly showing a Go-x40/x50 device which is where the MicroSD card slot has appeared from, it also contains images of x40/ x50 dock a USB cable for the PC AND a car charger which isn't what you find later in the manual. (Page 4 shows the actual charger unit and single cable supplied with the unit).

The mount is referred to as "Easy Port" and Easy Click" at various pages throughout, perhaps they haven't made up their minds as to what its called yet!

Page 10 shows a screen shot from a Live device when this manual is for a Non-Live device.

Page 23 states you can use Home to install POI's to the device, will be interesting to see how thats going to work, just a few observations from a quick read through - Mike

 

[mvl]

I've been watching the manuals for all Tomtom the models as they've been posted over the years.

The information isn't very consistent, seems like they just collate various Tomtom manuals together.

My biggest surprise is the headphone jack which was used in the test report, as those are more representative of the hardware that's actually tested. Makes me wonder if Tomtom is relenting and finally putting back the mp3 player in American models. Perhaps that's one of the addons in the 7100/9100.

 

[offthegrid]

Verizon will only have parts of 30 metro areas built out by the end of the year for LTE and won't complete the build until 2014.

Hard to imagine what they will offer that would require that speed when till now they have settled for GPRS even as opposed to Edge speeds.

The test report only approves bluetooth functionality, no approval for a LIVE internal modem. I'm wondering if Tomtom doesn't want to disclose it's LIVE modem yet (I had always speculated that Tomtom may go Verizon LTE to launch USA HD traffic via Voafone's tech, if that's the case the device would have to be 700mhz and maybe they don't want to disclose that yet).
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[canderson]

I've been watching the manuals for all Tomtom the models as they've been posted over the years.

The information isn't very consistent, seems like they just collate various Tomtom manuals together.

Many times, a company will just throw something together that demonstrates their plan for the usual CYA FCC warning and DOC pages (e.g., passes Part 15 Class B tests, but if your device interferes...) and isn't necessarily representative of the product in other respects. As you say, I wouldn't put too much faith in what you read there. Often, the manuals are the last thing to be completed in a product launch anyway.

My biggest surprise is the headphone jack which was used in the test report, as those are more representative of the hardware that's actually tested.

Indeed likely that it will be there. When testing, the lab will require that all I/O ports be populated with whatever the standard gadget is for the port. That way they are most likely to catch emissions radiating off of peripheral cables. Most manufacturers go out of their way to avoid hooking up anything they don't have to as it always increases the chances of not passing a radiated emissions test. If they attached a cable to an 1/8" audio jack, chances are good that it will be there in at least one configuration or they'd have "plugged" the hole and avoided the risk of additional RF issues during testing.

 

[canderson]

The test report covered only the four internal model numbers 4CS01, 4CS03, 4KH00 and 4KI00 (and there appear to be six coming). Because they have evidently chosen to use separate Bluetooth and antenna components, they were required to retest the Bluetooth models as "intentional emitters" using their specific board layout. It's a whole lot easier if you can use a chip that includes the integrated antenna - you can just put a sticker on the bottom of the unit that says "this thing is in there".

But strange -- there's a note in this report that says "This EUT has also been tested and complied with the requirements of FCC Part 15, Subpart B, recorded in a separate test report." Separate report? Seems strange that they didn't re-run the entire radiated emission test for Bluetooth models (the oscillator on the Bluetooth chip and the addition of data signals to/from the Bluetooth chip would be expected require that) - just the conducted emissions test. But that "separate report" would seem to imply that there is at least one model (perhaps 2) without Bluetooth support (?!?). Otherwise, one would have expected to see a single report that covered the whole mess.

 

[mvl]

Verizon will only have parts of 30 metro areas built out by the end of the year for LTE and won't complete the build until 2014.

Hard to imagine what they will offer that would require that speed when till now they have settled for GPRS even as opposed to Edge speeds.

My rationale for LTE isn't the speed. LTE is the first time Vodafone and Verizon will be on the same hardware platform. I assume TT needs Vodafone in the mix to launch HD traffic in the USA.

However, with all the shareholder pressure for Vodafone to sell their Verizon Wireless stake, you never know what might happen.

 

[mvl]

Another model range was published on the FCC website on 9/21. This time Tomtom subjected the user manual to the 180-day blackout. So there isn't much info we can find on it. (Also, it appears that Tomtom asked the GO-1000 user manual to be pulled from public viewing too.)

Similar to the GO 1000, the new model was only tested for bluetooth phone pairing. They did not test for a LIVE modem.

However, unlike the GO 1000, there was no test of an external headphone.

There appear to be 3 models in the release:
-4KJ00
-4CQ01
-4CQ02

 

[mvl]

Tomtom just announced the PRO 7100 and PRO 9100 targeted towards fleet customers (see here).

This explains the two previously-unannounced model numbers that showed up on the FCC website.

 

[canderson]

",,,It comes with an improved user interface, is easier to use..."

Uh oh. Hope the 7100 isn't really another name for a 1050 model with the "Easymenu interface"

One might ask, if the statement above is REALLY true, why the 1000 wouldn't share the "improved user interface", and why that would be held aside for their "Work" versions that will likely never see a retail shelf. Marketing baloney, or a dumbed down version of the consumer interface? Guess we'll find out one of these days.

 

[mikealder]

If the Pro models are simply a different menu and work maps/ PC interface why do they need seperate listings on FCC - I would have thought a direct read accross from the other model tested would apply. Only a hardware difference would require re-testing or does the FCC work in a different way? - Mike