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11-14-2009, 02:07 PM
 
I tried the software earlier today with 8 destinations in Central Florida plus two about 80 miles away. It never did complete the route computation even letting it run for 3 or 4 minutes. Counted down to zero, then started posting negative times to completion. I did see a "second language" thrown in there (can't remember which), but figured that was to be expected with the European origin of the software. i wasn't impressed.
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To test I just entered
Start: Toronto, ON
Destination: Albany, NY
Stop-overs: Prescott, ON; Tupper Lake, NY; Lake Placid, NY;
and it calculated the correct way with reasonably fast processing time.

Saving it to the device as an itn will eliminate the need to follow my previous habit of putting town centers in a custom POI and call up the next destination just before I get to this town.
First line just meant just now, not when I made a Toronto area test before.

It appears that earlier today, just like then, I only looked at the route shown in the software.
After gatorguy's post I decided to run the itinerary in Demo mode and it failed.
It showed the correctly numbered waypoints

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but then, after completing the calculations, it displayed no route found

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I opened the file with Notepad and saw a couple of quotation marks on the last line (below the finish line, ending with |2| and deleted them.
Double clicked on the itn file, opened it and it showed properly with TYRE

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Tried to run it in Demo mode and got the same no route found as before.

Opened it with Notepad and compared it to other itineraries and noted that some started out with a 0 (zero) and others with a 1 (one). I changed the 0 for the Start to 1, tried again and the Demo works.

To confirm all of the above I made another short local 2 waypoints itinerary.
Looking at the file made by ZRP-Routenoptimierung I get everything on one line with a square box symbol as the last item per instruction.
Opening it with TYRE and saving it I again get the normal one line per instruction with a double quotation mark in a line below the Finish instruction |2|.

BOTH ran without a hitch in Demo mode.

Having tried it over and over I am a little discouraged as I could not find out why it wouldn't work on the Albany test.

In spite of my normal lapel button I will make an exception this time

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and will accept advice gracefully
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Arno, I thought I saw where you could contact the author by email. Was I mistaken?
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Smack in the middle of the screen [contact/donations]
But I spent about two hour in total on that and will have to rephrase it, but not tonight.
It is time to go downstairs and sample (a few times) that Italian product that is not allowed to marketed under the name of the famous, but overrated products from the Provence Charante.
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Servers were down first thing this morning and still are.
I am supposed to get a notification when they will be up again.

When it works the way it is intended I like it better for itineraries than TYRE.
I do like TYRE but I use it mostly to rename custom POIs to display in the list the way I want it.
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Arno, you realize you are now my 'go to' guy for anything TYRE related that a member may have...

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Arno, you realize you are now my 'go to' guy for anything TYRE related that a member may have...
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SOL for you m'lad.
Here are some clips from the past although I could not find an earlier blow-by-blow instruction from about July/August 2008.

To overcome wrong locations for proper street addresses:
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The easiest way is to make it a new POI and pick a near intersection. Then open Tyre > Edit > Display in Google maps. Click on [ Satellite ] and drag the POI to the exact spot you want it to be. Save POI. Copy to TomTom.
Sorting within a POI category is by distance from current location.
A TomTom generated POI may have the street address so long that the town name is not visible and the street name may not have any specific meaning.
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I do not know if the XL IQ V3 has the ability to make custom POI categories. If yes, make one for this trip and make a POI for every conceivable destination. Use Tyre to give the destinations memorable names in the line of the street address as it keeps the coordinates separate from the written address.
I type the name and then five spaces so that the names jump out in the list.
It is much easier to look for Uncle Henry then to find his address at 10429 Central Blvd if you normally don't use his street address. Or, Guggenheim; CN Tower; Super Dome; Fisherman's Wharf, etc.

The following will become much better once we will be able to use ZRP-Routenoptimierung as intended
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I find it so much easier to just enter the next "Navigate to .." than playing around with itineraries. This even more so as I will deviate from a planned route if scenery looks better and do not have to meet a schedule.
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11-17-2009, 04:45 PM
 
Looks as if we have some good news.
I have been in touch with Patrick and after his solving problems with their Server he made alterations to the programme.
The problem of his English language demo page has not been solved. To date he hasn't found what causes the instruction count running into negative integers and carrying on.
I found that problem could be easily overcome by adding the name of the county, East Essex in this case.

This should not matter for North Americans as most of us doing it properly anyway by adding the two letter code of the Province/State.

I tried quite a few routes over here, including the one to Albany with the TomTom screen print "No route found".
No problems with any of them and all without any manipulation; a straight save to the device via the [tomtom/itn] link.

My first test this evening threw me a bit. I picked Toronto, ON a couple of the northern suburbs and Toronto again. ZRP - Routenoptimierung (=Google maps) came back with 1h 47min. TomTom Itinerary planing with IQ fastest routes came up with 1h 59min and a much longer route around the center (which I too would have picked by myself).
What threw me even more was when I went for that route in Demo, it started at my house to get to Downtown first, after all it was the starting point of the selected route.

I tried the planner in all four languages and no matter what, the time and distance are indicated below the map in German only.

Gesamtstrecke: 1.121 km = Total Distance
Zeit: 10 Stunden, 48 Minuten = Time in Hours and Minutes



gatorguy, please try to select the eight location route on which you had to give up.
Maybe one of the locations causes the same problem as the "Hastings" one in the UK.

Looking forward to hearing from you.
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Hi.

I have tried the software and altough it is not working well I must admit that it can be a fantastic piece of kit.I would solve a lot of my problems.Do we have any news on updates or progress as to the functionality of the programme.I would love to get involved in any way if it will speed up the process .Essentially I need software that can optimize multiple stops and transfer that to my tom tom.This software does just that, now we just need to sort out a few "kinks".
 
 
 
 
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I have tried the software and altough it is not working well
Can you elaborate on that one a bit.
What did you do and what went wrong?
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Do we have any news on updates or progress as to the functionality of the programme.I would love to get involved in any way if it will speed up the process .Essentially I need software that can optimize multiple stops and transfer that to my tom tom.This software does just that, now we just need to sort out a few "kinks".
I have not received any further feed back from them.
I am starting to wonder if it was just an exercise for them as they not replied to my asking if they were planing to let the results show in the language which was selected for the input.

I don't make ITNs in general, find individual POIs more suitable to my mode.
In combination with IQ routes it would have be a great tool for me when I had a sales territory.
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